Severn Trent Water is a criminal organisation

Severn Trent logoI’ve been poorly treated in this country when it comes to just living somewhere. I’ve rented a furnished flat that turned out to have no furniture in it. I’ve been rendered homeless by an incompetent letting agent and a negligent landlord. I’ve had my family subjected to carbon monoxide poisoning due to a faulty gas heater, and then told that the only reason we’re still alive was a bloody great hole in the roof. I’ve been left without heating in winter.

But so far, winning the competition for most infuriatingly bureaucratic and resolutely anti-consumer experience in the UK is in the area of water supply.

This is a very long story, which I shall try to summarise and tell as briefly as possible — because apart from being dull and repetitive, it makes me very cross. Thing is, it should make you cross too.

If you’ve ever paid a water bill on an unmetered property, then Severn Trent have been overcharging you. Seriously overcharging you — especially if you live in a flat. They admit that the amount that they charge you is far too much, and they are unprepared to do anything about it. In my case that bill for drinking, flushing and washing: at present — over £650.

For the last God-knows-how-long, I’ve been engaged in an ongoing battle with Severn Trent Water. If you don’t have a water meter, they calculate the cost of your water on the rateable value of the land on which your home is situated. We live in a building in a fairly nice area, with 50-odd other residents. Naturally, to house an 8-storey building like this, the land is going to be fairly sizeable — and it’s that bit of land that our water rates were being valued on.

I pointed out the absurdity of this quite some time ago. Over a year, I think… and I was promised action. Nothing.

Then suddenly, there was a big scandal in the media about Severn Trent’s notorious and criminal overcharging, and the company was forced to reassess all of the accounts, and send out new, corrected bills. It was in the news. I remember watching it on the telly.

But in the meantime, our battle raged on. After a great deal of tedious to-ing and fro-ing I agreed to get a water meter installed, as this was the only way we could show our water usage. That way, the real amount could be calculated, and applied back to when we first moved into the property. This seemed like a sensible solution. We could prove the overcharging, and the situation could be rectified. By now, our bill had reached in excess of £800.

The meter was installed (rather badly, and we have cables pulling up edges of carpets now) and so we thought we’d leave it a month or two to establish the pattern of water consumption.

Then, from nowhere, presumably on the back of the negative publicity and a promised change in the billing at Severn Trent, our account dropped overnight from in excess of £800 to around £200. That’s better. However, we also received a bill for £0.00.

While waiting for the meter-based bill to turn up we received a final demand for the £200 invoice, and another for the £0 invoice. So, even though we had yet to see any evidence of metered water charges, we paid the former, and decided to ring to query the latter. There was no way I was being taken to court for an unpaid bill of zero money.

I spoke to Dwayne, who informed me that I shouldn’t worry about the £0 and that, in fact, I shouldn’t have paid the £200 either, because the account was in the process of being reassessed by ‘the system’. I figured that this must be the back-calculation based on meter readings. I decided to get something in writing.

No, said Dwayne, he couldn’t possibly email me or give me something in writing. But his manager might. I received a call from Marcia the next day, and she assured me that the £0 bill would go away, the £200 payment would be credited to the account, and then anything left over would be refunded to us.

Today, we received a bill for £650.

Not only had we returned to square one, but as part of that bill, we also had documentation of 3 months of metered water usage that proved that our average water consumption was actually around £10 a month. So I called them yet again with two questions:

1) Why has the £400-odd that fell off the bill when it was last reassessed (around the time of that last scandal) suddenly returned?
2) Why has our average metered rating not been applied retrospectively as promised?

I spoke to Geraldine, who was, at first, helpful — then defensive. I then spoke to her manager Sue, who went straight to defensive.

The upshot is this:

They are not prepared to apply metered rates retrospectively to bills, even when those metered rates prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the unmetered charges were off by a factor of about 4 or 5. If they did, then they would have to do that for everyone — and they would also have to admit that their standard unmetered charges, based on the rateable value of the property, are extortionate — particularly when it comes to flats and apartments. The person who told me they would retrospectively calculate the metered amount was lying to me.

Moreover, the person that told me that the rateable value was on the value of the land was wrong. I’m now told that it was set in 1990 on an inspector’s opinion of the rentable value of the flat. Who knows? At any rate, it’s at a much higher value than any of the houses in the area. Flats in tower blocks apparently rent for much more than three bedroom Moseley homes with off-street parking and lush greenery.

Their defense is that the rates on which they calculate the unmetered water bill is set by the Inland Revenue. That’s fine. I appreciate that. What I do not accept is that that means they have no control over the bill amount. Inland Revenue could say the rated figure is £X. From there, Severn Trent will apply a formula — they will multiply or divide that £X by an arbitrary figure to come up with an unmetered charge. The point I have been failing to make to any of the Severn Trent drones is that the formula is entirely within their organisation’s control. They are not powerless over the amount they charge their customers, despite what they try to tell us.

I also do not accept that there is nobody in the organisation who has the authority to look at a bill, see that it has been unarguably proven to be incorrect and then apply changes.

The answer to this is that, yes, there probably is somebody who could do that — but we’re not going to, and nor are you going to be allowed to speak to that person. We offer a choice: either you install a water meter or we will happily charge you vastly in excess of the value of the service. We know that it’s wrong, absurd and criminal — and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Direct quote: “If we amend one unfair bill, then we have to admit that the whole system is in the wrong — and we’d have to amend them all.”

Too bloody right.

You had one angry customer whose problem you could have quietly solved. Now you have on your hands a representative of an entire constituency of customers who have been criminally overcharged, and he works in the media.

You can expect me now to not only try and get my bill sorted — and keep working my way up until I find a human being who can actually step outside the machine, make a rational decision and apply actual influence rather than just submit to a bureaucratic and corrupt policy — but also expose the criminal nature of what your organisation is involved in.

12 Responses to “Severn Trent Water is a criminal organisation”


  1. 1 OrangeJon February 4, 2007 at 3:38 pm

    Seeing as you can’t say “screw you guys, I’m going somewhere else”, they have an important duty not to over-charge for their service and provide a good level of customer service. I can understand that they want to encourage everyone to get a water meter, and I support that, but £650 seems a bit much!

    I’d see if you can get somebody from Ofwat on your side, as well as trying to generate some publicity around this.

  2. 2 Tony Bach February 4, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    It took you HOW LONG to get a (free) meter installed?

    It’s all on their website – how charges are calculated, how to calculate your water usage, how to apply for the – free – water meter online.
    Of course they’re going to milk the public for what it’s worth, but only as long as the public will willingly be milked….

  3. 3 dubber February 5, 2007 at 11:16 pm

    I’ve gone back to the bills, and I’ve done the maths on a monthly basis. It looks like this:

    WITH METER: £11 per month
    WITHOUT: £36 per month

    DIFFERENCE: £25 per month or £300 per year

    Regardless of whether I looked at their website or was able to attain landlord’s permission or was a proactive consumer, Severn Trent should not be profiting by £300 per residence per annum for failing to get a meter installed – no matter what the reason.

    Publicity forthcoming.

  4. 4 Tony Bach February 6, 2007 at 7:47 am

    They’re not profiting by £300 per annum on ALL residences – they’re certainly making a loss on some places, but it’s easier for them to average it out and get you to compensate for them.
    Utility companies will do what a ineffective and inefficient regulatory authority will allow them to get away with.
    Unless metering is made compulsory, those households with high water usage (taking lots of baths – surprising for Poms.., running hairdressing salons in their spare room and suchlike) will avoid installing them like the plague, leaving the rest of the users (either metered or non-metered low water consumers) to pick up the bill. STW will argue that they require an adequate return on capital and will keep jacking up their prices with Ofwat’s connivance. They have absolutely no incentive to provide a leak-free delivery network or to achieve either internal or user-related efficiencies – it’s cost-plus, just like any good defence contract..
    But good luck, anyway. Buy yourself a couple of STW shares and have a rant at their AGM. Won’t get you anywhere, but you’ll feel better…!

  5. 5 Nolan February 22, 2007 at 4:14 pm

    Lets get this straight. Unmetered water bills are based on rateable value, last set approx 1976 and superceded by poll tax/ council tax. Water bills are now based on a system that is obsolete and cannot be monitored, checked or altered. Water companies are charging for services without competition or any effective form of policing. Any wonder at your problems?

  6. 6 mc536guillaume February 24, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    Well dubber, you are not the only to suffer from the incompetence of Severn Trent Water. Since I moved in my flat in february 2006, I ve been on a meter reading and still had troubles with my bills. I had a bill of about 400 pounds after 4 month which obviously wasn’t right, I don’t fill a swimming pool every month!
    So I asked an engineer to come over because I suspected a disfunctionment in the meter. And there was one! They fixed it last autumn and they put my account on hold. I haven’t heard of them since then, I just wonder what’s gonna happen next…

  7. 7 Evan J March 10, 2007 at 10:48 am

    We would gladly take the time to explain what consumer courtesies you should expect of your water company and how Ofwat has set measured and unmeasured charges in their last price review.

    We are a consumer advice organisation separate from Ofwat and the water company. Please find us on the web at http://www.ccwater.org.uk. Severn Trent Water comes under the responsibility of our Midlands office.

    Evan, Consumer Council for Water Midlands

  8. 8 stewart perkins March 17, 2007 at 10:14 am

    Severn Trent is the ultimate nightmare organisation, and because it’s a private monopoly it doesn’t have to bother about keeping anyone happy except the shareholders/directors. Before I moved house a few years ago I took a water supply to a building on neighbouring land and adopted an unused meter which came with the original house. The supply was switched on and meter checked by a very helpful ST person, who said I should now start to receive bills, but who warned me that the system could be chaotic.
    I tried for over a year to get a bill from them. I started to count the calls to Severn Trent….32 separate occasions, usually multiple calls on each occasion, usually left hanging in the system, or cut off. Nobody was able to help, or find the right department which could. Two years after installation I received a call from a perplexed engineer who said that, for the past two years, my bills had been going, not just to the nearest neighbour, but to the next one along as well. Even though they were paying for their own supply anyway, my neighbours had had regular six month barneys ending with threats of court action. The engineer also wanted to know where my meter was, as they had lost its location.
    While I was at the old house ST was installing replacement mains pipes in the road. They dug a 10 ft. deep hole right outside my front door and left it uncovered, refused to say when it might be filled, and only put proper safety gear around it after the local paper had carried a pic and story about it. They sprayed a gate of mine with marker paint which they were using on the road they were excavating. Their temporary depot was fifty yards away, and I asked them to send someone from there to clear the spray off. They refused, so I did it myself, sent them a bill for £80 and they paid it.
    All this is coming back to me (and I know how Dubber feels) now, as I’m splitting the land which I retained after selling the house, and I’ve been trying to ascertain from ST if I can take the original supply in to the land which I’m keeping, and if they can meter this supply. The score so far is five multiple calls, all referring me to departments which have already denied responsibility as the one which can sort the problem. I think I’ll just have a chat with the new owner of my land and ask him if I can pay him a quarterly sum for his water.
    It’s NOT individual ST employees who are the problem, it’s a rotten system. The two engineers I’ve dealt with have been brilliant. One gave me her mobile no. because she knew how appalling the system is. She said that she had had complaints from customers all the time about a system which doesn’t actually work, but when she had passed these on to the management they just tell her that the system is fine, it’s just the thick customers who are at fault. And why shouldn’t the managers adopt this attitude in a market free for all? I can’t have my water from anywhere else, and the public service ethos of the old utilities (and, believe me, compared with these privatised wideboys they were brilliant) no longer exists. There are rich people to make even richer, so why should they spend some of this money making the system work properly if the suckers can’t go anywhere else?
    Actually, on reflection, I think I’ll probably dig a well…………..

  9. 9 Puneet April 14, 2007 at 8:45 pm

    I live in a flat and I am also paying 610 to seven trent. I hope I could swich to some other company to get the water in my flat for resonable price

  10. 10 Martin April 17, 2007 at 9:11 am

    Severn Trent. So useless that other useless firms are complaining, as Severn Trent are giving them all a bad name.

    Oddly enough I have just published a story on how Telford in Shropshire, just lost its water supply on the online version of the newspaper I write for. Which is how come I found this blog.

  11. 11 louise November 5, 2007 at 2:41 am

    SEVERN TRENT DID THE EXACT SAME TO ME TRIED TO CHARGE ME NEARLY 700 POUNDS FROM APRIL 07 TO MARCH 07′ SO FOR ONE YEAR THEY WANT 700 MY MOTHER LIVES IN A 3 BEDROOM HOUSE IN A BETTER AREA AND PAYS 200 A YEAR SO I DONT UNDERSTAND ……………….. I LIVE IN A FLAT ALONE ……..THEY TOLD ME I MUST PAY DOUBLE AS ITS A 2 BEDROOM FLAT EVEN THOUGH ITS ONE PERSON USING THE WATER ………….I TOLD THEM I COULDNT AFFORD THE AMOUNT THEY SENT ME A BILL TO PAY IT IN TWO PARTS ………………I WAS BACK AND FORTH DIDNT GET NO WHERE APART FROM A BILL SAYING I COULD PAY 56 POUNDS EVERY MONTH TO PAY IT OFF …I AM STILL BATTLING THEM AND I SEE ITS NOT JUST ME THEY HAVE DONE IT TO ………..ITS STRESSING AND YOU SEEM TO GET ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE !!!

  12. 12 Lee Sanders October 3, 2008 at 9:00 am

    jusr read evrything printed here. i have had a water meter installed for over 5 years now. my direct debit was 12.50 a month. no problems there. well not until last month when they decided to hike my direct debit upto 59.90 a month. it turns out that there billing system does not work, it does not monitor useage and amend the monthly direct denits according to usage. they have made estimates even though i have a meter which can be scanned easily.

    anyway i have basically told them to get stuffed. im now paying 7.50 a week double what i was paying a month but half of what they wanted to pay. it is only when they threaten to cut me off is when i will approach the Water Obudsmen.

    DONT LET THEM BULLY YOU. I HAVE NOT AND NEVER WILL.

    if its their cock up – dont let the intimidate you


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